A sermon of obedience especially vnto authoritie ecclesiasticall, wherein the principall controuersies of our church are handled, and many of their obiections which are refractorie to the gouernment established, answered, though briefly as time and place could permit: being preached at a visitation of the right worshipfull M.D. Hinton,in Couentry. By Fran: Holyoke.
Obey them that haue the ouersight of you, & submit your selues for they watch for your soules as they that must giue accounts, that they may doe it with ioy and not with griefe,
Obey them that have the oversight of you, & submit your selves for they watch for your Souls as they that must give accounts, that they may do it with joy and not with grief,
For as St. Gregorie vpon Iob saith it is to no purpose to search and enquire who is the writer of that booke, of which we acknowledge the holy Ghost to be the author.
For as Saint Gregory upon Job Says it is to no purpose to search and inquire who is the writer of that book, of which we acknowledge the holy Ghost to be the author.
And in this 17, verse is a speciall exhortation to honor and obey our superiors, which is the first and principall commandement of the second table, hauing this prerogatiue to be the first commandement with promise.
And in this 17, verse is a special exhortation to honour and obey our superiors, which is the First and principal Commandment of the second table, having this prerogative to be the First Commandment with promise.
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The word (as the great greeke Etymologist doth expound it) NONLATINALPHABET one that is chiefe of a tribe, society or company, who excelleth in wealth,
The word (as the great greek Etymologist does expound it) one that is chief of a tribe, society or company, who excels in wealth,
The word NONLATINALPHABET signifieth, to yeeld vnto or submit your selues vnto, or be ruled by. NONLATINALPHABET Iliad. a. Si tibi omni in re morem geram.
The word signifies, to yield unto or submit your selves unto, or be ruled by. Iliad. a. Si tibi omni in re morem geram.
As if the Apostle should say, harkē diligētly vnto the voice of your teachers, follow their instructions and admonitions, obey the commandements constitutions and ordinances, of them or other your gouernors,
As if the Apostle should say, harken diligently unto the voice of your Teachers, follow their instructions and admonitions, obey the Commandments constitutions and ordinances, of them or other your Governors,
but submit your selues vnto them, and suppose they bee NONLATINALPHABET, rigidi morosi austere, severe or otherwise faulty, beare with thē & submit your selues to their autority as vnto Gods substitutes.
but submit your selves unto them, and suppose they be, rigidi morosi austere, severe or otherwise faulty, bear with them & submit your selves to their Authority as unto God's substitutes.
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The parts are two, First an exhortation or rather a commandement vnto inferiors, to bee obedient vnto those that bee in authoritie over them, to instruct and gouerne them.
The parts Are two, First an exhortation or rather a Commandment unto inferiors, to be obedient unto those that be in Authority over them, to instruct and govern them.
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Secondly reasons to inforce obedience vnto this commandement, The first reason is drawne from the office and dignitie of the person vnto whome obedience is to bee giuen, they are such ouerseers as watch for your soules,
Secondly Reasons to enforce Obedience unto this Commandment, The First reason is drawn from the office and dignity of the person unto whom Obedience is to be given, they Are such Overseers as watch for your Souls,
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as they that must bee readie to giue an accoūt, the second ab honesto, it were great ingratitude by our disobedience to moue them to performe this charge with griefe of minde,
as they that must be ready to give an account, the second ab honesto, it were great ingratitude by our disobedience to move them to perform this charge with grief of mind,
That God hath made a difference of degrees amongst his people, even from the beginning, and stil doth & must continue amongst Christians vnder the Gospell.
That God hath made a difference of Degrees among his people, even from the beginning, and still does & must continue among Christians under the Gospel.
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And out of the epistles of S. Paul in the similitude of the mēbers of a mans body, some parts are more honorable then other there is the head aboue the foot, the eie more honorable thē the legge, &c. For, saith he, some mēbers are so necessary as we cannot liue without them, others such as though they bee cut off & we maymed, yet may we cōtinue life.
And out of the Epistles of S. Paul in the similitude of the members of a men body, Some parts Are more honourable then other there is the head above the foot, the eye more honourable them the leg, etc. For, Says he, Some members Are so necessary as we cannot live without them, Others such as though they be Cut off & we maimed, yet may we continue life.
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that the mā is by nature made to gouerne the womā, the wise, the noble & the mighty, to gouerne the foolish, the ignorāt, the base and the weake, the father the children, and the master the servants.
that the man is by nature made to govern the woman, the wise, the noble & the mighty, to govern the foolish, the ignorant, the base and the weak, the father the children, and the master the Servants.
Yet Christ bid giue to Caesar those things which were Caesars, and S. Paul bids every soule to be subiect to the higher powers for there is no power but of God,
Yet christ bid give to Caesar those things which were Caesars, and S. Paul bids every soul to be Subject to the higher Powers for there is no power but of God,
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In the Apostles time it is plaine there were Prophets, and Apostles, Pastors, Teachers, Priests or Elders, Deacons, Bishops, Evangelists, NONLATINALPHABET and divers others.
In the Apostles time it is plain there were prophets, and Apostles, Pastors, Teachers, Priests or Elders, Deacons, Bishops, Evangelists, and diverse Others.
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In the ages succeeding the Apostles, the general consent of al antiquitie & the Churches of God easterne and weasterne in all ages hitherto haue kept a difference of degrees in the Church, some besides laboring in the word of God to rule and gouerne,
In the ages succeeding the Apostles, the general consent of all antiquity & the Churches of God eastern and western in all ages hitherto have kept a difference of Degrees in the Church, Some beside labouring in the word of God to Rule and govern,
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and those that were yet catechised, and not admitted to the participation of the sacraments. In his epistle ad Rusticum Monachum he saith, singuli ecclesiarum Episcopi, singuli archipresbyteri, singuli archidiaconi,
and those that were yet catechised, and not admitted to the participation of the Sacraments. In his epistle and Rusticum Monachum he Says, Singuli ecclesiarum Bishops, Singuli Archpriest, Singuli Archdeacons,
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In all S. Augustines workes and al the fathers before him, they all mention a difference betweene Presbyterum and Episcopum both in autoritie and dignitie.
In all S. Augustine's works and all the Father's before him, they all mention a difference between Presbyterum and Bishop both in Authority and dignity.
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neither was it generally at any time obserued in all Churches, for even from the times of the Apostles, some one Priest or elder was chosen amongst the rest, which should be in authoritie aboue the rest;
neither was it generally At any time observed in all Churches, for even from the times of the Apostles, Some one Priest or elder was chosen among the rest, which should be in Authority above the rest;
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as a guid and gouernor to rule all the rest, as he proueth out of Act. 15. that S. Iames was Bishop of Hierusalem, &c. And that this ordination of Bishops was perpetually obserued in all Churches, may be gathered by all ecclesiasticall histories and ancient fathers as Tertullian, Cyprian, Irenaeus, Eusebius &c. The necessity hereof he amplifieth with reasōs vnanswerable.
as a guide and governor to Rule all the rest, as he Proves out of Act. 15. that S. James was Bishop of Jerusalem, etc. And that this ordination of Bishops was perpetually observed in all Churches, may be gathered by all ecclesiastical histories and ancient Father's as Tertullian, Cyprian, Irnaeus, Eusebius etc. The necessity hereof he amplifieth with Reasons unanswerable.
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Who were there to discusse, determine & order matters in controversie, to set down the confession of faith for vnitie, to make ordinances and constitutions wherevnto ministers and people were subiect, were they inferior ministers or Bishops? In all this time there was no question,
Who were there to discuss, determine & order matters in controversy, to Set down the Confessi of faith for unity, to make ordinances and constitutions whereunto Ministers and people were Subject, were they inferior Ministers or Bishops? In all this time there was no question,
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Secondly, of yeelding obedience vnto the autoritie of such ministers, as are in preheminence, as also in obeying their lawes, constitutions and ordinances.
Secondly, of yielding Obedience unto the Authority of such Ministers, as Are in pre-eminence, as also in obeying their laws, constitutions and ordinances.
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And first touching obedience vnto the word, where we are to consider, that vnlesse we reverence the man that preacheth the word, at least for his calling and office sake, the worde preached by him shall be to smale effect.
And First touching Obedience unto the word, where we Are to Consider, that unless we Reverence the man that Preacheth the word, At least for his calling and office sake, the word preached by him shall be to small Effect.
Which Saint Paul knew well when (1 Cor. 4.1.) he saith let a man esteeme of vs as the ministers of God, and dispensers of his misteries. And Gal. 4.14.15. he glorieth, that the Galatians receiued him as an Angel, yea as Christ himselfe, and that their loue to him was such, that if it had beene possible they would haue pulled out their very eies to haue done him good;
Which Saint Paul knew well when (1 Cor. 4.1.) he Says let a man esteem of us as the Ministers of God, and dispensers of his Mysteres. And Gal. 4.14.15. he Glorieth, that the Galatians received him as an Angel, yea as christ himself, and that their love to him was such, that if it had been possible they would have pulled out their very eyes to have done him good;
This made S. Paul so carefull to right his reputatiō against the practises of the false apostles, who in many places standeth much both in proving the autoritie of his Apostleship,
This made S. Paul so careful to right his reputation against the practises of the false Apostles, who in many places Stands much both in proving the Authority of his Apostleship,
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Christ to teach the honor due vnto his ministers, putteth vpon them his person and saith (Mat. 10) that the entertainement and respect given vnto them, hee accounteth done vnto himselfe.
christ to teach the honour due unto his Ministers, putteth upon them his person and Says (Mathew 10) that the entertainment and respect given unto them, he accounteth done unto himself.
In like manner S. Paul in divers places calleth his auditors his sonnes and himselfe their father, shewing that as hee loued them as his naturall sonnes,
In like manner S. Paul in diverse places calls his Auditors his Sons and himself their father, showing that as he loved them as his natural Sons,
and we shal easily conclude, that to deny thē the honor and respect due vnto their office and place, is to clip Gods coine, is treason against God himselfe.
and we shall Easily conclude, that to deny them the honour and respect due unto their office and place, is to clip God's coin, is treason against God himself.
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In the 5. commandement, the yeelding of a due honor hath the promise of a blessed long life, the contrary must needs procure a wretched life and a cursed death, in the 2 King: 2.24: verse.
In the 5. Commandment, the yielding of a due honour hath the promise of a blessed long life, the contrary must needs procure a wretched life and a cursed death, in the 2 King: 2.24: verse.
Therefore seeing we honour our lawier that watcheth for our goods, and our Phisition for the health of our bodies, much more ought their feete seeme beautifull vnto vs, that watch for our soules, that bring vs the glad tidings of salvation.
Therefore seeing we honour our lawyer that watches for our goods, and our physician for the health of our bodies, much more ought their feet seem beautiful unto us, that watch for our Souls, that bring us the glad tidings of salvation.
The consideration of this will manifest vnto vs the wicked frowardnes of such, as without all feare of God or respect of common civilitie (howsoeuer they will seeme to doe it in zeale of religion) wil speake evil of thē that are in authoritie,
The consideration of this will manifest unto us the wicked forwardness of such, as without all Fear of God or respect of Common civility (howsoever they will seem to do it in zeal of Religion) will speak evil of them that Are in Authority,
& especially of the ministers from the highest to the lowest, they wil bespurtle al with one blot or other though they bee never so sober, learned, reverend, godly or graue,
& especially of the Ministers from the highest to the lowest, they will bespurtle all with one blot or other though they be never so Sobrium, learned, reverend, godly or graven,
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for to frame lies, to raise slaunders, to backbite or any waies to impeach, any that are conformable to the gouernement of the Church, they account it religion,
for to frame lies, to raise slanders, to backbite or any ways to impeach, any that Are conformable to the government of the Church, they account it Religion,
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And this is so common a vice annexed to the inbred-pride of faction, that few of them that are refractorie to the gouernement established, are free from:
And this is so Common a vice annexed to the inbred-pride of faction, that few of them that Are refractory to the government established, Are free from:
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Another sort there are, that esteeme basely of all ministers, as they be ministers; who though their wickednesse and contempt of God be herein farre greater, thē the other;
another sort there Are, that esteem basely of all Ministers, as they be Ministers; who though their wickedness and contempt of God be herein Far greater, them the other;
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yet if there bee any that herein make scruple let him reade S. Augustine and other learned and ancient fathers against the Donatists, which serueth for ful confutation of the same sect renued in our daies vnder other names.
yet if there be any that herein make scruple let him read S. Augustine and other learned and ancient Father's against the Donatists, which serveth for full confutation of the same sect renewed in our days under other names.
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and therefore there were many godly men, chosen by godly Bishops & Martyres, into the ministery, that should read the Scriptures and praiers of the Church, catechise according to a forme prescribed, read homilies, administer the sacraments,
and Therefore there were many godly men, chosen by godly Bishops & Martyrs, into the Ministry, that should read the Scriptures and Prayers of the Church, catechise according to a Form prescribed, read homilies, administer the Sacraments,
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And yet wee doubt not, but the people vnder them, may performe acceptable service to God, in hearing reverently the word read, in ioining with him in publike prayers of the Church, giving diligent care to the homilies and sermons which he readeth, receiueth the sacraments,
And yet we doubt not, but the people under them, may perform acceptable service to God, in hearing reverently the word read, in joining with him in public Prayers of the Church, giving diligent care to the homilies and Sermons which he readeth, receiveth the Sacraments,
as some people, that haue diuers sermons made by extempory men, which stand vpon the present assistance of the spirit, dabitur in illa hora, and preach their own idle humors.
as Some people, that have diverse Sermons made by extempore men, which stand upon the present assistance of the Spirit, dabitur in illa hora, and preach their own idle humours.
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sheweth, that there were in the Church in his time, some ministers which had not the gift of preaching, of whome hee made no question but that they were lawfull ministers,
shows, that there were in the Church in his time, Some Ministers which had not the gift of preaching, of whom he made no question but that they were lawful Ministers,
& he approueth their reading of homilies or pronouncing of other mens sermons to the better edifying and instructing of their people. These are his words.
& he approveth their reading of homilies or pronouncing of other men's Sermons to the better edifying and instructing of their people. These Are his words.
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quod si ab alijs sumant eloquenter sapienter { que } conscriptum, memoriae { que } commendent at { que } ad populum proferant, si eam personam gerunt, non improbè faciunt.
quod si ab Alijs sumant eloquenter Sapienter { que } conscriptum, Memoriae { que } commendent At { que } ad Populum proferant, si eam Personam gerunt, non improbè faciunt.
and cānot endure that a learned man should vse the helpe of his owne notes in the pulpit, (because they themselues can preach little worth noting) which will seeme to preach all out of the Bible and their owne meditations,
and cannot endure that a learned man should use the help of his own notes in the pulpit, (Because they themselves can preach little worth noting) which will seem to preach all out of the bible and their own meditations,
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Let it bee proued that aptnesse to make & preach sermons of themselues is the forme & essence of a minister, which cannot bee gathered out of St. Paul,
Let it be proved that aptness to make & preach Sermons of themselves is the Form & essence of a minister, which cannot be gathered out of Saint Paul,
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Againe if such shalbe denied to be ministers (the congregations vnder them may as well be denied to be visible members of the Church of God) then must the sacraments administred by them, bee denied to bee sacraments,
Again if such shall denied to be Ministers (the congregations under them may as well be denied to be visible members of the Church of God) then must the Sacraments administered by them, be denied to be Sacraments,
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S. Augustine Contra Parmentanum Donatistam, & contra Cresconium grammaticū & contra Petilianum, sheweth, that the dignitie of the sacraments dependeth not of the worthinesse of the minister,
S. Augustine Contra Parmentanum Donatistam, & contra Krisios grammaticū & contra Petilianum, shows, that the dignity of the Sacraments dependeth not of the worthiness of the minister,
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To conclude this point the honor due vnto a minister, is not to be denied vnto him, that hath not gifts of himselfe sufficient to make sermons, seeing that this notwithstanding, he cannot be denied to be a lawfull minister, howsoever those that haue greater gifts are worthy of double honour.
To conclude this point the honour due unto a minister, is not to be denied unto him, that hath not Gifts of himself sufficient to make Sermons, seeing that this notwithstanding, he cannot be denied to be a lawful minister, howsoever those that have greater Gifts Are worthy of double honour.
There are others that with good directiōs & helps of their able neighbouring ministers, would in short time be brought vnto a reasonable sufficiencie in preaching;
There Are Others that with good directions & helps of their able neighbouring Ministers, would in short time be brought unto a reasonable sufficiency in preaching;
and to read homilies which are set forth and enioined, and to procure their weekely or monthly sermons at the least, according to the iniunctions and Canons.
and to read homilies which Are Set forth and enjoined, and to procure their weekly or monthly Sermons At the least, according to the injunctions and Canonas.
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And seeing it hath beene a fault of some particuler gouernors (and not the fault of the gouernment, which commandeth the cōtrary) to ordaine such insufficient men, in places where sufficiēt main tenāce is for able preachers, it were to be wished that for the time to cōe, they would admit none into such places but preachers.
And seeing it hath been a fault of Some particular Governors (and not the fault of the government, which commands the contrary) to ordain such insufficient men, in places where sufficient main tenance is for able Preachers, it were to be wished that for the time to come, they would admit none into such places but Preachers.
And this evil was wisely foreseen & thought very necessarie to be redressed, when as by our ecclesiasticall lawes they ought to be graduats and of a good age,
And this evil was wisely foreseen & Thought very necessary to be Redressed, when as by our ecclesiastical laws they ought to be Graduates and of a good age,
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Moreouer our gouernors of our Churches should doe a good and necessary service, to take a sure survey of those that are preachers what their sufficiency is,
Moreover our Governors of our Churches should do a good and necessary service, to take a sure survey of those that Are Preachers what their sufficiency is,
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yea some of them twice or thrice a weeke, and God knowes, knowe not how nor what they preach, to the great dishonor of God and reproach of preachers, bringing the preaching of the word in contempt, and to bee iested at.
yea Some of them twice or thrice a Week, and God knows, know not how nor what they preach, to the great dishonour of God and reproach of Preachers, bringing the preaching of the word in contempt, and to be jested At.
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they are to admonish the ministers, generally and particularly, that by their pietie, integritie, diligence and charitie, they would force men to yeeld that reverence and obedience as they are bound vnto and as becommeth them.
they Are to admonish the Ministers, generally and particularly, that by their piety, integrity, diligence and charity, they would force men to yield that Reverence and Obedience as they Are bound unto and as becomes them.
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For as the reverent esteeme of the ministery & ministers, is a great cause that the people receiue the word of God with more alacrity and to their greater profit:
For as the reverend esteem of the Ministry & Ministers, is a great cause that the people receive the word of God with more alacrity and to their greater profit:
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when wee shall be guilty of taking Gods name in vaine, and refuse the word of reconciliation & meanes of salvation offred. S. Paul 1. Thess. 2.13. reioiceth that the Thessalonians receiued the word preached, not as the word of man, but as it is indeed the word of God. & 2. Cor. 4.7. we haue this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the vertue thereof might be of God and not of ourselues.
when we shall be guilty of taking God's name in vain, and refuse the word of reconciliation & means of salvation offered. S. Paul 1. Thess 2.13. Rejoiceth that the Thessalonians received the word preached, not as the word of man, but as it is indeed the word of God. & 2. Cor. 4.7. we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the virtue thereof might be of God and not of ourselves.
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but that Moses might be for thē to God, & deliver Gods will to them. In this ordinance of God, that his Ministers should declare his will vnto the people;
but that Moses might be for them to God, & deliver God's will to them. In this Ordinance of God, that his Ministers should declare his will unto the people;
first he declareth his good will toward vs, when he taketh out of men them that shal do his message in the world, that shalbe interpreters of his secret will, that shal represent his owne person.
First he Declareth his good will towards us, when he Takes out of men them that shall do his message in the world, that shall Interpreters of his secret will, that shall represent his own person.
Secondly, this is the best and most profitable exercise to humility, when hee accustometh vs to obey his word, howsoever it be preached by men like vnto vs,
Secondly, this is the best and most profitable exercise to humility, when he accustometh us to obey his word, howsoever it be preached by men like unto us,
and S. Paule, and S. Jude, make mention of false teachers, &c. In our Saviour Christs time, the extraordinary calling of Prophets was not altogither ceased.
and S. Paul, and S. U^de, make mention of false Teachers, etc. In our Saviour Christ time, the extraordinary calling of prophets was not altogether ceased.
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and such as without any setled place or ordinary calling, went from place to place to sowe heresies, some of which denied Christ the foundation, some taught doctrines of devils and damnable heresies.
and such as without any settled place or ordinary calling, went from place to place to sow heresies, Some of which denied christ the Foundation, Some taught doctrines of Devils and damnable heresies.
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If they had meant ordinary ministers in an established Church, they would haue easily told them a redresse, by ordinary proceeding either to reclaime or depose them.
If they had meant ordinary Ministers in an established Church, they would have Easily told them a redress, by ordinary proceeding either to reclaim or depose them.
Whereas the Apostle giueth no such liberty, but expoundeth himselfe in the wordes following, that he that denieth the Lord Iesus to be come in the flesh is not of God.
Whereas the Apostle gives no such liberty, but expoundeth himself in the words following, that he that Denieth the Lord Iesus to be come in the Flesh is not of God.
sed ab ijs etiam tanquam iniustis possessoribus in vsum nostrum vēdicanda &c. The heathen Philosophers (saith hee) those things which they haue spoken truely,
sed ab ijs etiam tanquam iniustis possessoribus in vsum nostrum vēdicanda etc. The heathen Philosophers (Says he) those things which they have spoken truly,
as the Israelites did the vessels, iewels and rayment, which they borrowed from the Aegyptians &c. To the same purpose S. Hierom. And now to conclude this point also.
as the Israelites did the vessels, Jewels and raiment, which they borrowed from the egyptians etc. To the same purpose S. Hieronymus And now to conclude this point also.
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If thou suspect that thou hearest the preacher preach that which is neither the worde of God nor agreeable vnto it, carry the point to be discussed by some ministers that be in autority (if he himselfe do not satisfy thee) and let the spirit of the Prophets bee subiect vnto the Prophets,
If thou suspect that thou Hearst the preacher preach that which is neither the word of God nor agreeable unto it, carry the point to be discussed by Some Ministers that be in Authority (if he himself do not satisfy thee) and let the Spirit of the prophets be Subject unto the prophets,
The second maine obiection is the life of the minister, because God sometimes suffereth, some covetous Iudasses, some lasciuious sonnes of Elie, some prophane Epicures to be in the ministerie, they thinke there is no reverence due vnto them as they are ministers of God,
The second main objection is the life of the minister, Because God sometime suffers, Some covetous Judases, Some lascivious Sons of Elijah, Some profane Epicureans to be in the Ministry, they think there is no Reverence due unto them as they Are Ministers of God,
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This indeed is a great stumbling blocke which hath and doth cause many to fall And it were to bee wished that by the censures of the church such offences were removed either by reclaiming the offendors and bringing them into order,
This indeed is a great stumbling block which hath and does cause many to fallen And it were to be wished that by the censures of the Church such offences were removed either by reclaiming the offenders and bringing them into order,
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Yet the Lorde suffreth such to trie vs whether we wil hereat take offence and refuse the precious pearle offered vnto vs because it is brought vnto vs in an vncleane boxe.
Yet the Lord suffers such to try us whither we will hereat take offence and refuse the precious pearl offered unto us Because it is brought unto us in an unclean box.
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To meete with this evill our Saviour himselfe hath given vs a lesson, Mat. 23. The Scribes and Pharesies sit in Moses chaire, all things therefore which they shall command you to obserue, obserue and do ye,
To meet with this evil our Saviour himself hath given us a Lesson, Mathew 23. The Scribes and Pharisees fit in Moses chair, all things Therefore which they shall command you to observe, observe and do you,
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What hast thou to doe to preach my lawes, &c. He expoundeth it thus, frustra hoc fit quantum ad te attinet, non tibi prodest, hoc tibi ad iudicium damnationis non ad meritum salutis valebit.
What hast thou to do to preach my laws, etc. He expoundeth it thus, frustra hoc fit quantum ad te attinet, non tibi profits, hoc tibi ad iudicium damnationis non ad Merit Salutis valebit.
Some I knowe, and those of the precisest sort both of ministers, and people haue held, that a formalist (for so they tearme al those that in the feare of God & obedience vnto the Prince conforme thēselues vnto the laws prescribed) cannot convert soules,
some I know, and those of the Precisest sort both of Ministers, and people have held, that a formalist (for so they term all those that in the Fear of God & Obedience unto the Prince conform themselves unto the laws prescribed) cannot convert Souls,
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Quasi nos dicamus per seipsum quemlibet hominem spiritales filios generare, & non pro Evangelium in cuius praedicatione spiritus sanctus operatur. 1. Cor. 4. ego vos genui per Euangelium, Euangelium autem fur quo { que } Iudas sine detrimento fidelium praedicauit.
Quasi nos Dicamus per seipsum quemlibet hominem spiritales Sons generare, & non Pro Evangelium in cuius predication spiritus Sanctus operatur. 1. Cor. 4. ego vos genui per Evangelium, Evangelium autem fur quo { que } Iudas sine detrimento Fidelium praedicauit.
That evil and wicked men, being ministers of the Gospell, are to bee heard. 2. That the word of God preached by them is to be receiued and obeyed as Gods word,
That evil and wicked men, being Ministers of the Gospel, Are to be herd. 2. That the word of God preached by them is to be received and obeyed as God's word,
D. H. Zanchie, sheweth, how that many not knowing the difference betweene humane traditions and ecclesiasticall constitutions, brand them both with one blacke marke.
D. H. Zanchie, shows, how that many not knowing the difference between humane traditions and ecclesiastical constitutions, brand them both with one black mark.
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The necessitie of these he proueth at large by vnanswerable arguments, to bee such, as without the which, concord peace and vnitie, order nor decency can be obserued,
The necessity of these he Proves At large by unanswerable Arguments, to be such, as without the which, concord peace and unity, order nor decency can be observed,
So in the preface to the booke of commō prayer, where reasons are giuen of the abolishing of some ceremonies and the retaining of others, is declared the selfe same thing,
So in the preface to the book of Common prayer, where Reasons Are given of the abolishing of Some ceremonies and the retaining of Others, is declared the self same thing,
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& therefore if some orders should not be set down, but that every man should be left to his own liberty, we should haue so many seuerall congregations, so many diuers religions.
& Therefore if Some order should not be Set down, but that every man should be left to his own liberty, we should have so many several congregations, so many diverse Religions.
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Thus wee see, if in this and other things, every man were left to his owne liberty, what an endlesse worke there would be, there would be cōcord in nothing but in diversities and disagreements.
Thus we see, if in this and other things, every man were left to his own liberty, what an endless work there would be, there would be concord in nothing but in diversities and disagreements.
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divine because they are a part of that order and decorum, that God hath commanded in generall, leaving the particulers to the discretion of the church to bee framed according to the generall rule.
divine Because they Are a part of that order and decorum, that God hath commanded in general, leaving the particulars to the discretion of the Church to be framed according to the general Rule.
And if any inferior governors in the church (who are to see vniforme orders to be observed) will see some observed and some others wilfully to be broken:
And if any inferior Governors in the Church (who Are to see uniform order to be observed) will see Some observed and Some Others wilfully to be broken:
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then that this liberty of diversity shoulde be given, which breeds so great scandals. For I knowe by manifold experience, the danger that this diversity of observing orders bringeth.
then that this liberty of diversity should be given, which breeds so great scandals. For I know by manifold experience, the danger that this diversity of observing order brings.
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And if political lawes of heathen princes, be to be observed for conscience sake (so that they enioine not disobedience to God) much more these that are for mainetenance of concord, order and decencie in the worship of God.
And if political laws of heathen Princes, be to be observed for conscience sake (so that they enjoin not disobedience to God) much more these that Are for maintenance of concord, order and decency in the worship of God.
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as appeareth in his booke de sacris vestibus ) Touching the lawfulnes of these matters which are now made question of by divers, writeth his censure at large vpon our booke of cōmon praier liturgie and ceremonies.
as appears in his book de sacris vestibus) Touching the lawfulness of these matters which Are now made question of by diverse, Writeth his censure At large upon our book of Common prayer liturgy and ceremonies.
Now he saith, that when first he came into this land, he made doubt whether he might ioine with our church as with a church of God, things were so farre out of order;
Now he Says, that when First he Come into this land, he made doubt whither he might join with our Church as with a Church of God, things were so Far out of order;
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but when hee looked more seriously into the matter, he foūd that the fault was in the manners of the men and for want of the execution of the wholesome orders prescribed,
but when he looked more seriously into the matter, he found that the fault was in the manners of the men and for want of the execution of the wholesome order prescribed,
or by necessary consequence, drawne out of the word of God, howsoever he wished that some things that troubled the consciences of some men, were removed,
or by necessary consequence, drawn out of the word of God, howsoever he wished that Some things that troubled the Consciences of Some men, were removed,
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Others thinke that all or the most of our ceremonies are lawfull in themselues, but the imposing a necessitie in observing of them, destroieth Christian liberty.
Others think that all or the most of our ceremonies Are lawful in themselves, but the imposing a necessity in observing of them, Destroyeth Christian liberty.
Indeed vpon this conceipt, some do strongly and strangly hold, that the king may not cōmande them to weare their ordinary apparell of this or that fashion, much lesse any to be vsed in the Church,
Indeed upon this conceit, Some do strongly and strangely hold, that the King may not command them to wear their ordinary apparel of this or that fashion, much less any to be used in the Church,
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but (say they) we cannot yeeld vnto them without offence, and scandall of Many. Christ paid tribute Mat. 17.27. which he was not boūd vnto seeing he was free:
but (say they) we cannot yield unto them without offence, and scandal of Many. christ paid tribute Mathew 17.27. which he was not bound unto seeing he was free:
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Totū hoc genus habet liberas observationes, nec est disciplina ulla in his rebus melior gravi prudenti { que } viro, quam ut eo modo agat, quo agere viderit ecclesiam adquamcun { que } forte devenerit.
Totū hoc genus habet liberas Observationes, nec est Discipline ulla in his rebus melior gravi prudenti { que } viro, quam ut eo modo agat, quo agere viderit Church adquamcun { que } forte devenerit.
Quod enim ne { que } contra fidē ne { que } contra bonos mores iniungitur, indifferenter est habendū & pro eorum inter quos vivitur societate, seruandum est.
Quod enim ne { que } contra fidē ne { que } contra bonos mores iniungitur, indifferenter est habendum & Pro Their inter quos vivitur Societate, seruandum est.
neither is there in these things any better rule to a graue & prudent man, thē that he behaue himselfe so as the church doth vnto which hee shall happyly come.
neither is there in these things any better Rule to a graven & prudent man, them that he behave himself so as the Church does unto which he shall happily come.
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when I come to the church of Rome I fast on the satterday, and when I am here I doe not, Sic etiam tu ad quam forte ecclesiam veneris eius morem serua, si cuiquam non vis esse scandalum nec quenquam tibi.
when I come to the Church of Room I fast on the Saturday, and when I am Here I do not, Sic etiam tu ad quam forte Church veneris eius morem Servant, si cuiquam non vis esse scandalum nec quenquam tibi.
sensi enim saepe dolens & gemens, multas infirmorum perturbationes fieri, per quorundam fratrum contentiosam obstinationem & superstitiosam timiditatem, qui in rebus huiusmodi, quae ne { que } scripturae sanctae autoritate,
sensi enim saepe dolens & gemens, multas infirmorum Disturbances fieri, per quorundam fratrum contentiosam obstinationem & superstitiosam timiditatem, qui in rebus huiusmodi, Quae ne { que } Scriptures sanctae autoritate,
ne { que } universalis ecclesiae traditione, ne { que } vitae corrigende vtilitate, ad certum possunt terminum pervenire, tantum quia subest qualiscun { que } ratiocinatio cogitantis, aut quia in sua patria sic ipse consuevit, aut quia ibi vidit, ubi peregrinationē suam quo remotiorem à suis eo doctiorem putat, tam litigiosas excitant quaestiones, ut nisi quod ipsi faciunt nihil rectum existimant.
ne { que } Universalis ecclesiae tradition, ne { que } vitae corrigende vtilitate, ad certum possunt Terminus pervenire, Tantum quia Subset qualiscun { que } ratiocinatio cogitantis, Or quia in sua patria sic ipse consuevit, Or quia There vidit, ubi peregrinationē suam quo remotiorem à suis eo doctiorem putat, tam litigiosas excitant Quaestiones, ut nisi quod ipsi faciunt nihil rectum existimant.
For with sorrow & griefe I haue oftentimes found, that many weake ons haue beene sore troubled, through the contentious obstinacy and superstitious feare of certaine brethren:
For with sorrow & grief I have oftentimes found, that many weak ons have been soar troubled, through the contentious obstinacy and superstitious Fear of certain brothers:
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nor for the vtilitie of amendmēt of life, can be brought to any certaine ende, only because some make some curious scruple in their mind, either because they haue vsed otherwise in their own country,
nor for the utility of amendment of life, can be brought to any certain end, only Because Some make Some curious scruple in their mind, either Because they have used otherwise in their own country,
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or because they haue seene another maner vsed in places where they haue travelled, which by how much the more it bee remote, by so much the more they doe esteeme it, doe stirre vp such contentious questions, that they thinke nothing right but what they doe thē selues.
or Because they have seen Another manner used in places where they have traveled, which by how much the more it be remote, by so much the more they do esteem it, do stir up such contentious questions, that they think nothing right but what they do them selves.
The assumption of this argument is proued by induction of particuler examples amongst themselues, who some allowing one & some another, they do vnwittingly in their diuersities, allow al,
The Assump of this argument is proved by induction of particular Examples among themselves, who Some allowing one & Some Another, they do unwittingly in their diversities, allow all,
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There are some out of pride, betake themselues to this disobedience for singularities sake, and many seeing that in this florishing time, they had neither learning, pietie,
There Are Some out of pride, betake themselves to this disobedience for singularities sake, and many seeing that in this flourishing time, they had neither learning, piety,
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Some also by this meanes haue enriched themselues and made a gaine of the time, haue suffered a little losse to haue a tenfold greater gaine in collections & contributions, insomuch that some of thē being before poore pedants, are now becōe rich vserers.
some also by this means have enriched themselves and made a gain of the time, have suffered a little loss to have a tenfold greater gain in collections & contributions, insomuch that Some of them being before poor pedants, Are now become rich usurers.
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Now when the reward of disobedience, shalbe greater then the recōpense of obedience, & disobedience being it selfe so pleasing a humor, it must needs oversway many.
Now when the reward of disobedience, shall greater then the recompense of Obedience, & disobedience being it self so pleasing a humour, it must needs oversway many.
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because they themselues haue formerly spoken and preached against them, & cannot now without offense to their people, whome formerly they haue so instructed; practise the contrary;
Because they themselves have formerly spoken and preached against them, & cannot now without offence to their people, whom formerly they have so instructed; practise the contrary;
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yet let such labour to knowe that it is not good to leaue preaching of the word, a matter of substance which is commanded vnder a Woe, for matters of circumstance, ceremonies, and in question.
yet let such labour to know that it is not good to leave preaching of the word, a matter of substance which is commanded under a Woe, for matters of circumstance, ceremonies, and in question.
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So did the Donatists plead in S. Augustines time, and because some of them were then punished for their outrageous faults, they grounded herevpon that they were the persecuted Church, they suffered for righteousnesse,
So did the Donatists plead in S. Augustine's time, and Because Some of them were then punished for their outrageous Faults, they grounded hereupon that they were the persecuted Church, they suffered for righteousness,
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because little or nothing is mēded, but a little purse punishment. May not the superiour Magistrate repriue a fellon, and the supreme pardon at his pleasure,
Because little or nothing is mended, but a little purse punishment. May not the superior Magistrate reprieve a felon, and the supreme pardon At his pleasure,
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Every Minister should herein do wel to admonish his people of the great waight of an oath and if these and like vnder officers would present and indite according as they are bound thē need there not be such exclaming against superiorpowers for the raigning of all abuses, seeing the principall cause ariseth from ourselues.
Every Minister should herein do well to admonish his people of the great weight of an oath and if these and like under Officers would present and indite according as they Are bound them need there not be such exclaiming against superiorpowers for the reigning of all Abuses, seeing the principal cause arises from ourselves.
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Yet perhaps S. Hieron, hādle•• this point more sparing because he should haue beene elected Bishop of Rome, and by reason of his a mulators had the repulse.
Yet perhaps S. Hieron, handle•• this point more sparing Because he should have been elected Bishop of Rome, and by reason of his a mulators had the repulse.
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Vnderstanding that this doctrine touching the reading of homilies by such as are not of sufficient abilitie to frame sermons, was offensiuely taken as false & erronius. Let such offensiue men know, that herein I said nothing, but that which M. Bucer in his censure vpon our booke of common prayer hath written for the substance in his 7 chapter whither I referre the equall reader espec. As for the carpets let them now bite him, whō after many yeeres buried, was burned for despite borne vnto his doct. 〈 ◊ 〉
Understanding that this Doctrine touching the reading of homilies by such as Are not of sufficient ability to frame Sermons, was offensively taken as false & erroneous. Let such offensive men know, that herein I said nothing, but that which M. Bucer in his censure upon our book of Common prayer hath written for the substance in his 7 chapter whither I refer the equal reader espec. As for the carpets let them now bite him, whom After many Years buried, was burned for despite born unto his doct. 〈 ◊ 〉
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